You have to double or triple-check whatever you hear from these persons! Most of their statements are lies!
We have seen this during the testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson.
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Liz Cheney and the J6 committee brought in Mark Meadows’ ex-staffer Cassidy Hutchinson as a surprise witness.
What she has testified were lies and invented stories!
Hutchinson said that Trump became a beast after the speech at the Ellipse on January 6. Hutchinson got the information from Tony Ornato, the Assistant Director for the Secret Service. Also, Trump completely changed when he realized he was being driven back to the West Wing.
However, the Secret Service Agents immediately debunked Cassidy Hutchinson.